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Rabbit 'flu ?
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Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
2006-08-21 15:16:44 UTC
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I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of Pasteurella
multocida, and just wondered if this could get as dangerous as they reckon
bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic could occur.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
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Jim Webster
2006-08-21 15:25:43 UTC
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Post by Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of Pasteurella
multocida, and just wondered if this could get as dangerous as they reckon
bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic could occur.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
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according to other sources it is found in cats as well ;-))

I suspect it is one that has been around so long we forgot to panic about it

Jim Webster
Dave Fawthrop
2006-08-21 15:38:25 UTC
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:16:44 +0100, "Flyi?g ?u? 2??6 +"
<***@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

|I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of Pasteurella
|multocida, and just wondered if this could get as dangerous as they reckon
|bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic could occur.
|http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html

Can you not read, your URL!
Not that I would believe anything published by the Sun <spit>
The route of infection is stated to be blood.
It also says "The bug ? found in rabbits? noses ? is normally easily
treated."
For a flu pandemic to occur the infection must by via air born droplets.
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Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
2006-08-21 16:24:12 UTC
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Post by Dave Fawthrop
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:16:44 +0100, "Flyi?g ?u? 2??6 +"
Post by Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of
Pasteurella multocida, and just wondered if this could get as
dangerous as they reckon bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic
could occur. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
Can you not read, your URL!
Not that I would believe anything published by the Sun <spit>
Does this help then?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/5269766.stm
Post by Dave Fawthrop
The route of infection is stated to be blood.
It also says "The bug ? found in rabbits? noses ? is normally easily
treated."
So you believe that bit of what the Sun published then?
Post by Dave Fawthrop
For a flu pandemic to occur the infection must by via air born droplets.
Can't these things mutate then, in a similar way to the mechanism, that the
experts reckon is only a question of time, in bird 'flu?
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Dave Fawthrop
2006-08-21 16:38:51 UTC
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 17:24:12 +0100, "Flyi?g ?u? 2??6 +"
<***@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
|> On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:16:44 +0100, "Flyi?g ?u? 2??6 +"
|> <***@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
|>
|>> I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of
|>> Pasteurella multocida, and just wondered if this could get as
|>> dangerous as they reckon bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic
|>> could occur. http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
|>
|> Can you not read, your URL!
|> Not that I would believe anything published by the Sun <spit>
|>
|Does this help then?
|http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/5269766.stm

Essentially the same story

|
|> The route of infection is stated to be blood.
|> It also says "The bug ? found in rabbits? noses ? is normally easily
|> treated."
|>
|So you believe that bit of what the Sun published then?

No but the Beeb story provides confirmation.

|>
|> For a flu pandemic to occur the infection must by via air born droplets.
|>
|Can't these things mutate then, in a similar way to the mechanism, that the
|experts reckon is only a question of time, in bird 'flu?

Unlikely.

Bird flu however has "form"
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Nick Atty
2006-08-21 19:04:00 UTC
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On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:16:44 +0100, "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +"
Post by Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of Pasteurella
multocida, and just wondered if this could get as dangerous as they reckon
bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic could occur.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
I think the "flu" name is a complete red herring. It's a bacterial
disease, and so has nothing to do with anything else we call flu (human
or avian).
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Jim Webster
2006-08-21 21:42:39 UTC
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Post by Nick Atty
On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 16:16:44 +0100, "Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +"
Post by Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of Pasteurella
multocida, and just wondered if this could get as dangerous as they reckon
bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic could occur.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
I think the "flu" name is a complete red herring. It's a bacterial
disease, and so has nothing to do with anything else we call flu (human
or avian).
yes,
from the Times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2321743,00.html
John Freeman became infected with the bacterium Pasteurella multocida after
picking up a rabbit he had shot on his farm. He fell ill with a fever the
next day and doctors initially suspected flu or chickenpox.

But after Mr Freeman, 29, died in hospital three days later from
septicaemia, a postmortem examination revealed that he was infected with the
bacterium that causes pasteurellosis, which is known as rabbit flu or
snuffles, even though it is not a virus

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Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
2006-08-21 22:17:42 UTC
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Jim Webster wrote:
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Post by Jim Webster
from the Times
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-2321743,00.html
John Freeman became infected with the bacterium Pasteurella multocida
after picking up a rabbit he had shot on his farm. He fell ill with a
fever the next day and doctors initially suspected flu or chickenpox.
But after Mr Freeman, 29, died in hospital three days later from
septicaemia, a postmortem examination revealed that he was infected
with the bacterium that causes pasteurellosis, which is known as
rabbit flu or snuffles, even though it is not a virus
I wonder if that's the same kind of *snuffles* that kittens can get then?
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Yukon Zoomer
2007-02-13 00:59:14 UTC
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Post by Flyiñg Ñuñ 2°°6 +
I know this is a bird 'flu group. But I have never heard of Pasteurella
multocida, and just wondered if this could get as dangerous as they reckon
bird 'flu could in as much as a pandemic could occur.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2006380589,,00.html
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